Please note that this post is public, and anyone is welcome to read and comment, including my ex-wife, Leslie. For those who are seeing this without the context of being in the “NCF Resistance” Slack group, or seeing my previous restricted posts, the gist is that I asked some questions about something Leslie was doing in the game "Ingress". She responded by “going nuclear” and posting a ton of accusations and … lies. I responded to some of her statements in the group, but was asked to keep such “drivel” out of the group - which is a good point: it doesn't belong there, though I certainly didn't "start it". So I’m responding to the rest of her messages here. I will not be posting the full conversation publicly, out of respect for the privacy of other participants, so if anything doesn’t make sense, I apologize, but you’ll just have to treat this as another of life’s mysteries.
For those of you coming here from the Slack group or other contexts who don’t already know everybody:
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Leslie claims she left me because I didn’t believe her about the reason Audrey was fired. She’s right that I don’t believe her, but that’s the only thing she’s right about.
Not-quite-aside: “He hated me.” I never hated her. I never said I hated her. I don’t believe I ever behaved as if I hated her. I didn’t believe her, I was angry at her, I was afraid of her, I want her to stop interfering in Audrey's and my lives, but I never hated her. I don’t hate her now. I just want to live my life without having to tiptoe around her, worried about her exploding in accusations or storming out of rooms. ...To spell out the point more explicitly: THIS. IS. GASLIGHTING. She has decided my thoughts and feelings, and claims to have acted on them, and no amount of explanation from me, NOT THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO, has changed her mind.
But, believe it or not, that’s not the point of this item.
The point is this:
Now, I can understand that memory is faulty. Dates get mixed up. People get confused. But this was probably the largest, most significant decision she has made in at least the last 5 years (if not 10, 15, or 20), and she can’t get her story straight on why she made it?
If I were in a position where I was listening to her side of this story, this kind of incontrovertible, straight-up factual distortion (if not outright lie) would really make me reconsider the accuracy and truthfulness of everything else she’s said to me about it.
( Stuff and bother )
For those of you coming here from the Slack group or other contexts who don’t already know everybody:
- I’m Ed, also known as “Roger” in the chat.
- Leslie is my ex-wife, also known as “Bugs”.
- Audrey is my partner, also known as “Snobby”. More details on my relationship with Audrey are below.
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blockquotesrepresent Leslie’s words copied and pasted from Slack with the only alterations being clearly marked with [brackets] to clear up names.
What’s her reason for leaving today?
She was fired for pissing off a co-worker and then blamed it on me with the then husband. He hated me, I left because he didn't believe me.
Leslie claims she left me because I didn’t believe her about the reason Audrey was fired. She’s right that I don’t believe her, but that’s the only thing she’s right about.
Not-quite-aside: “He hated me.” I never hated her. I never said I hated her. I don’t believe I ever behaved as if I hated her. I didn’t believe her, I was angry at her, I was afraid of her, I want her to stop interfering in Audrey's and my lives, but I never hated her. I don’t hate her now. I just want to live my life without having to tiptoe around her, worried about her exploding in accusations or storming out of rooms. ...To spell out the point more explicitly: THIS. IS. GASLIGHTING. She has decided my thoughts and feelings, and claims to have acted on them, and no amount of explanation from me, NOT THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO, has changed her mind.
But, believe it or not, that’s not the point of this item.
The point is this:
- She announced she wanted a divorce on 9/1/2017.
- She moved out on 9/23/2017.
- She filed for divorce on 10/17/2017.
- Audrey's employment ended on 10/20/2017. Nearly two months after Leslie announced, nearly a month after she moved out, and three days after she filed.
Now, I can understand that memory is faulty. Dates get mixed up. People get confused. But this was probably the largest, most significant decision she has made in at least the last 5 years (if not 10, 15, or 20), and she can’t get her story straight on why she made it?
If I were in a position where I was listening to her side of this story, this kind of incontrovertible, straight-up factual distortion (if not outright lie) would really make me reconsider the accuracy and truthfulness of everything else she’s said to me about it.
( Stuff and bother )